Match Play Championship

HHGS MATCHPLAY IS BACK

After discussions the committee have decided to revive the traditional annual Match Play competition for the long-established Shield and Plate Trophies depending on numbers signing up for Match Play. To be able to contest both Shield and Plate a total of 32 players is the optimum number required.

  • 1st Round winners will continue to play on a knock out basis for the Shield
  • 1st Round losers will continue to play on a knock out bases for the Plate

Matches are to be scheduled as part of normal HHGS events and players not involved in Match Play can participate in the particular day’s Stableford event.

Games will be played under the following outlines

  • Handicaps of each player will be those with HHGS on each day the matches are held
  • Matches will be played using ¾ of handicap difference between the 2 players involved in each match using exact handicaps (to the decimal point)

Match Play draws will be made 2 days prior to each event and published on the web site, on Master Scoreboard booking / start sheets and displayed in Bernie’s Bar.

Each member will play a one off Match Play event fee of 350 Baht before the 1st game (Match fees for individual Stableford events will be paid as normal)

Current Planning is to commence Match Play on the 13th December and complete the event on 24th January as follows

  • December 13th – Black Mountain – Round 1
  • December 27th – Lake View – Shield Round 2 and Plate Round 1
  • January 10th – Majestic Creek – Shield Round 3 and Plate Round 2
  • January 21st – Majestic Creek – Semi-Finals
  • January 24th – Banyan – Finals

(initial outline dates may be subject to minor change depending on Member feedback on availability – please notify a committee member if this is necessary)

PLEASE SIGN UP ON THE WEB SITE BOOKINGS PAGE ASAP SO WE CAN JUDGE INTEREST

6 Replies to “Match Play Championship”

  1. It would appear from the conditions of the competition that competitors can play a match concurrently with a stableford. Please confirm.

    1. Dickie

      Yes they can – as they choose – previous years have given us a number of comments about being able to do this and it helps players to enjoy the full 18 holes. Only down side is the removal of the normal “gimme” putts in Match Play

      Tim

      1. Tim
        There are reasons why the playing of a match concurrently with Stroke play was never done, one important reason being that it was against the rules of golf. See below. Note, rule before 2019.

        33-1. Conditions; Waiving Rule The Committee must establish the conditions under which a competition is to be played. The Committee has no power to waive a Rule of Golf. Certain specific Rules governing stroke play are so substantially different from those governing match play that combining the two forms of play is not practicable and is not permitted. The result of a match played in these circumstances is null and void and, in the stroke play competition, the competitors are disqualified.

        Rules do change but regarding match & stroke the rules remain so substantially different that it would be impractical to attempt to combine the two. If a player applied certain rules during a match it would result in the opponent suffering severe penalty in the stroke play competition, and vice versa. This could lead to disharmony ( or worse ) between the players, something we should endeavor to avoid. Please note that the “gimmee” issue is a minor problem which can be addressed but other rules cannot be overcome.
        I appreciate the rationale behind the proposal but the implementation of such a competition could well be counterproductive. Please give the matter further thought.

        Regarding the proposed change to three quarter difference in handicap. This is against the C.O.N.G.U instruction that Full difference MUST be used. It is proven that three quarter difference hugely and unfairly favors the lower handicap in a match. In fact, full difference still favors the lower handicap. As the average handicap in the society is 18 / 19 Let’s have fair play and not be biased.
        Robert “Dicky” Bird

        1. Re ¾ handicap
          I agree Dicky`s argument, that to reduce handicap in match play, is unfair.
          If a player has a handicap eg. 28, his reduced hcp is 21. Respectively player with hcp 9, plays with 7.
          If we can play Stableford and Stroke play with full handicaps, though in two divisions, why not Match Play?
          Handicap in golf is a sensitive matter, but enables players of different playing skills to compete with each other. Both players have good and bad days and how often, is shown in their hcp´s.
          Kurre Westerling

  2. Great idea! Pity it is over Christmas. Cannot play day 2. But I understand you would like to have as many members here in HH as possible. Well done committee, hope many will participate!

  3. Robert, Kurre

    Thanks for your comments and would like to give you the following on behalf of the committee in response.

    Dual Competition
    You are absolutely correct Dickie and our thanks for highlighting this. The intent was a positive one to provide an extra incentive for sign ups as holding the 2 formats in tandem would allow all players to enjoy a full 18 holes no matter how the match play game went but as you now point out this is positively prescribed against and we will therefore change that.

    3/4 Handicap
    First can I point out that it appears Kurre has slightly misunderstood this – it is NOT 3/4 of the handicap of each individual player it IS 3/4 of handicap difference between the 2 players involved in each match. EXAMPLE – Player A has a 12 handicap and Player B has a 26 handicap. The difference is 14 shots and 3/4 of 14 is 10.5 rounded up to 11. Player A plays off zero and Player B plays off 11 shots.

    The decision to implement this was taken with full knowledge of the CONGU position which changed from using 3/4 handicap to full handicap some years ago. As the previous committee members well know when this was implemented in HHGS after the CONGU change there was an immediate impact in terms of low handicap (let’s say 10 and below) refused to sign up for the competition as it was perceived to create situations where low handicap golfers would be giving 2 shots on a number of holes when drawn against a high handicapper. This led to the unfortunate cancellation of the long established HHGS Match Play competition which is/was obviously detrimental to HHGS itself.

    Our intent is to popularize Match Play as an event and to encourage ALL members to participate – whilst High Handicappers outnumber Low Handicappers in the societies ranks the re-adoption of 3/4 difference (and as a committee we believe we CAN create formats for our own specific events) in our opinion “levels the playing field” and STILL allows the old saying “on any given day …etc etc” to hold true.

    Hope that answers the comments adequately and please understand this is for the good of HJHGS – letting long established competitions “slide” is something we MUST avoid if at all possible.

    Tim

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